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Naveen Michaud-Agrawal 2026-02-12 21:02:47

Saw this quote on a recent Quora answer from Alan Kay "since the computer could simulate anything that could be described — it was a true metamedium, and that meant there were likely media on the computer that could only exist because of the computer".

What kind of media could only exist on a computer? A few I can come up with - simulations of phenomena, games, pretty much anything with a time based dimension (except 2D+time, like movies, those existed before)

Ivan Reese 2026-02-12 21:36:22

Is the internet itself a medium?

Ivan Reese 2026-02-12 21:38:45

(Not to trivialize your question, but…)

I've had this music video stuck in my head for days. It feels like one of the most "computer-native" bits of culture I've seen in a hot minute — at least, in terms of aesthetics. It's not interactive, though, which gets to your mention of games, which I hold to be the highest form of computer-native expression. Like, I think being able to make something like minecraft is a lot to grapple with. That's incredible.

Ivan Reese 2026-02-12 21:39:24

Honestly, I'm not sure if the Kay quote is specific enough to be deeply meaningful. 🤷

Naveen Michaud-Agrawal 2026-02-12 22:56:20

That's a fair point about lack of specificity. I guess where I was going with the question was - are there computational media we haven't even thought of yet? Although that gets to the question of what exactly is a medium

Ivan Reese 2026-02-13 00:33:51

I choose to believe the answer is yes, based only on the fact that I'd rather live in that world.

William Taysom 2026-02-13 04:42:49

I was just saying to a friend, "If you can't dream it, you can't be it."

Paul Tarvydas 2026-02-13 10:48:48

@Naveen Michaud-Agrawal Observation: a colleague solved a hoary problem using Blender (problem: flight simulator view on a wrap-around screen). He wouldn’t have bothered to even approach the problem on paper using standard mathematical notation, yet was inspired to try and managed to successfully solve this in only a few evenings. My meta-conclusion is that this is evidence of computers begin a medium different from papyrus-and-ink and equational-thinking based on 500-yo Gutenbergian technology.

Ivan Reese 2026-02-13 13:41:13

yeah — simulation!

Ivan Reese 2026-02-13 13:41:38

could only exist, in this way, on a computer.

Konrad Hinsen 2026-02-14 09:19:50

If you define "simulation" widely enough (including in particular interactive simulation such as games), then that's the most important category of computational media from my point of view.

If you add "internet" to "computers", you get a large family of collaborative media that have no equivalent in the pre-computer world. This Slack, for example, but also Git repositories. CRDT-based real-time collaboration tools.

Also interesting as a category are media that support human-computer collaboration at larger scale (in terms of number of humans). The semantic Web, LLMs, etc.

Paul Tarvydas 2026-02-14 13:31:18

… add "internet" to "computers” …

My opinion: “internet” vs. “computer” == MIMD vs. SIMD, parallelism vs. half-parallelism, e.g. GPUs heavily optimized for a narrow use-case, or, adding baubles to current PLs to enable tortured MIMD programming at, essentially, an “assembler” level, or, …

Konrad Hinsen 2026-02-14 14:41:09

I see "many humans" as the main feature of "internet" not "many processors".

Ivan Reese 2026-02-14 19:00:37

it's both though, i think? that's what's new about it.

Paul Tarvydas 2026-02-15 12:01:41

IMO: humans experiencing “free will” are the same thing as MIMD. This new medium is capable of MIMD, but we’re strangling it by applying SIMD thinking to it.

Konrad Hinsen 2026-02-15 14:44:56

Yes, it's both. But so far, "many humans" has had a much higher impact on our work habits than "many networked computers". The latter are used in ways that try to be mostly invisible, except to their administrators. That's what "agentic AI" wants to change.

Duane McLemore 2026-02-16 03:16:22

One: Social Media. Is there any other place a flow of real-time information automatically tailored by personally preference?

I was reading usenet 30+ years ago, then moved in to posting on message boards and livejournal a few years later in my late teens. LJ is the first I would consider a "social media" platform. I have watched every subsequent one roll out until it became what it is today.

Two: with social media came the infinite scroll, which is a kind of weaponization of the format.