Marcin Ignac 2025-01-08 14:40:15 Greg Bylenok 2025-01-09 05:13:02 This seems like something @Tom Critchlow would find interesting. Tom used to have a project for collecting data/metadata from website travels. Wish I could put my finger on it, but it's been lost in a site redesign. Tom, am I remembering correctly?
Oleksandr Kryvonos 2025-01-08 21:26:19 Kartik Agaram 2025-01-08 22:08:27 I remember this one! I kinda didn't feel like it disagreed with me much even though I care about people learning programming. Because I think of programming as "using the best modeling tools we've managed to come up with so far."
Imagine you lived in Ancient Rome. Imagine saying it wasn't worth learning numbers because the Roman numeral system sucks, and you're just sure there's something new called "positional notation" about to launch real soon now.
So there's no "the" new literacy. There are only occasional "a" new literacies. And they're few enough and far enough apart that we shouldn't ignore any of them.
Mariano Guerra 2025-01-08 22:38:08 Medet Ahmetson 2025-01-09 06:46:59 Finally someone likeminded. Itβs true that there are different versions of showing the data besides desktop metaphor. But no one figured it out yet. Indeed true.
Mariano Guerra 2025-01-09 16:56:57 part two at some point stops talking about desktop, interfaces and software and I don't know where it's going π
Jason Morris 2025-01-09 17:33:56 It does not seem to me to be necessary to accept a different nature of consciousness in order to be able to justify the belief that the affordances offered by "desktop" computing are not the only ones possible. And people who find it necessary to preface their thesis with "this won't make any sense unless you first assume everything you know is wrong" do not inspire trust. Because I can't actually do that. All I can do is accept that if it doesn't make sense to me, that's my fault. And then you don't actually have to be right, and even if you are so is everyone else. It's a red flag for bullshit of the highest order.
Mariano Guerra 2025-01-09 17:59:59 just watched the third part and the pattern seems to be to use some idea from UIs to talk about the nature of consciousness for 10 minutes, maybe it comes back to UIs at some point but I'm not sure π
Dany 2025-01-11 05:53:05 The problem with the paper metaphor is kind of overblown. Nowdays there are quite a few other metaphors (infinity canvas, infinity scroll, trees, graphs, links..). Also webapps are not really websites anymore (for better or worse). We do have to remember that many computer users are very limited in their ability.
Dany 2025-01-11 06:10:38 Dany 2025-01-11 06:12:11 This could be so much more interesting if they put the gizmos right into the visualization.
