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Lu Wilson 2024-12-30 20:39:15

I'm really pleased to finally share my first-ever published paper (at last!)

This is...

DIALOGUES ON NATURAL CODE

by me and Dave Ackley

Please enjoy!!!!!

todepond.com/code

Lu Wilson 2024-12-30 20:41:26

or at least... as soon as the pdf uploads :)

Guyren Howe 2024-12-30 21:00:06

Yeah, the “Did you really read the blog post? If so, click here” thing just cycles between two different pages when you click “here”.

Also, a paper should stand alone.

I’m half-wondering if this is just punking us.

Lu Wilson 2024-12-30 21:02:18

i don't care what a paper "should" be

Oleksandr Kryvonos 2024-12-30 22:33:46

the talk reminded me of "Society of mind" book by Marvin Minsky

Oleksandr Kryvonos 2024-12-30 23:19:28

great talk

Lu Wilson 2024-12-31 14:10:55

thanks Oleksandr Kryvonos i should check that out!

Harry Brundage 2025-01-03 17:41:25

my team and i have a little bit heretical take on the future of coding, which is that all the accidental complexity for building so much useful stuff comes from systems integration these days, not the programming language or environment so much. we've been hard at work on a systems-integrated development platform, and are now just launching our take on AI, starting with full app-at-a-time app generation. it takes advantage of all the systems integration we've done to produce apps that have real, working frontends, backends, data storage, auth, caching, apis, etc, and does it the hard way such that you can fully fiddle with all the code and make just about anything. curious what you all think! here's the preview and link: x.com/hashemito/status/1875196717639033101 , DM me if you want early access i will let all you smart folks in!

Peter Saxton 2025-01-03 18:01:49

It's taken a while but after some conversations I had about making a structural editor that wasn't all keyboard shortcuts I finally have something to share.

I keep calling this a visual ui but that's probably not accurate as all the editors where visual.

It's a point and click discoverable ui for the structural editor. And here I walk through using it to build a Fibonacci sequence

vimeo.com/1043702197?share=copy#t=0

Jason Morris 2025-01-03 19:52:42

In this world, I don't see the point of having a concise syntax anymore. Is the idea that you can still do whatever you want using shortcuts and typing?

Peter Saxton 2025-01-03 21:32:07

You can still use shortcuts and "typing".

Peter Saxton 2025-01-03 21:33:05

I'm not pushing to save key presses with a concise syntax. I still think that you want reasonably high information density with larger programs.

Is there a way you would change the syntax?

Jason Morris 2025-01-03 22:23:12

Not specifically, just noting a parallel to block based environments where there is no upside for the blocks to be concise in the way text syntax tries to be to minimize typing. But if you want to do both, that makes perfect sense, I'd leave it as is.

Ivan Reese 2025-01-05 00:11:54

It's been so long since we released the last FoC episode that it disappeared behind Slack's horizon. Well, happy new year, here's an episode we recorded back in September!! It's been kinda nuts for the past few months, so sorry for the radio silence.

FoC Episode 74 • Is the Whole Universe a Computer™?

Jack Copeland, Mark Sprevak, and Oron Shagrir ask this question in chapter 41 of their book, The Turing Guide. They split this question in two, first asking whether the universe itself is a computer, then whether the universe could even be computed. These are lofty, unanswerable questions, sure, but they encroach on our territory — philosophy, automata, nonsense. So, in our usual reverent style and with attentive pacing, the three of us explore the paper, the questions, the answers they choose to highlight, and even share a few perfectly reasonable answers of our own.